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zap2it: Robb Stark and Grey Wind, together again.
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Robert’s Rebellion → Catelyn Tully, Petyr Baelish, Brandon...
Robert’s Rebellion → Catelyn Tully, Petyr Baelish, Brandon Stark, Eddard Stark
"He was my father’s ward. We grew up together in Riverrun. I thought of him as a brother, but his feelings for me were… more than brotherly. When it was announced that I was to wed Brandon Stark, Petyr challenged for the right to my hand. It was madness. I had to beg Brandon to spare Petyr’s life. He let him off with a scar. Afterward my father sent him away. I have not seen him since." She lifted her face to the spray, as if the brisk wind could blow the memories away. "He wrote to me at Riverrun after Brandon was killed, but I burned the letter unread. By then I knew that Ned would marry me in his brother’s place."
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kitharingtononmymind: "Good company at TCA" credit Laurie...
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HBO Releases 'Game of Thrones' Season 4 Trailer Footage on Vine
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Richard Madden in A Promise (Trailer) (x)
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Game of Thrones Season 4 Trailer Teases
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amplifyme: Gah, the first trailer tease! Gah!
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tsundeanre: skwair-one: witchywomanx: calima-eirien: This...
This relationship
This relationship? I mean if you’re into being sold to a man who’s abusive and rapes you but eventually learns to love you, then yes. This relationship.
“Drogo leads Daenerys off to consummate the marriage. A thirteen-year-old girl who had been abused by her brother for most of her life and had been given no say in the marriage, Daenerys is terrified of her bridegroom and expects to be raped. Despite his fierce reputation, however, Drogo proves to be a surprisingly considerate lover. Although he and Dany share no common language, he establishes that he understood the word “no,” then begins touching her gently. He does not begin to have intercourse with her until Dany expresses her consent and initiates it. This tender wedding night set the tone for their marriage, which becomes a remarkably happy one.”
I haven’t gotten into Game of Thrones, but I hear this is one of the differences from the Television show and Novels that some people got annoyed/mad about.I haven’t read the books (yet) but even I’m pissed off about that difference.
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thee-young-wolf: tsundeanre: skwair-one: witchywomanx: calima...
This relationship
This relationship? I mean if you’re into being sold to a man who’s abusive and rapes you but eventually learns to love you, then yes. This relationship.
“Drogo leads Daenerys off to consummate the marriage. A thirteen-year-old girl who had been abused by her brother for most of her life and had been given no say in the marriage, Daenerys is terrified of her bridegroom and expects to be raped. Despite his fierce reputation, however, Drogo proves to be a surprisingly considerate lover. Although he and Dany share no common language, he establishes that he understood the word “no,” then begins touching her gently. He does not begin to have intercourse with her until Dany expresses her consent and initiates it. This tender wedding night set the tone for their marriage, which becomes a remarkably happy one.”
I haven’t gotten into Game of Thrones, but I hear this is one of the differences from the Television show and Novels that some people got annoyed/mad about.I haven’t read the books (yet) but even I’m pissed off about that difference.
Take it from a guy who has read the book and loves the tv show. The difference is slight. While in the book you can tell they fall for eachother that night. She realizes he isn’t so bad. In the show they fall for eachother when dany takes control during their third sexual encounter to ease drogo. Drogo realizes she is not like any woman he has met and dangy learns that behind his rough exterior drogo is a kind warrior who views her as a khalessi
I’m pretty sure the difference is rape and not rape.
That’s not slight to some of us.
Especially those of who have been through that trauma.
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You will be better without them. If they think there is no difference -or little difference... like that would make a DIFFERENCE of the situation- between the book's romance and the show, well, they do not deserve this blog nor your attention. *hugs*
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it’s like I don’t even care if they leave, I literally want them to ‘cause I don’t want my blog’s name on the blogs of people who don’t care or don’t see a difference between consensual sex and rape
like even in prison you get extra fucked up by everyone else if you were a rapist. and yet I’m being told it’s totally not a big deal to exploit rape for entertainment purposes (and make no mistake that is what happened, because in the book Dany WAS NEVER RAPED OR ABUSED GO BACK AND REREAD/REWATCH IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME).
I don’t think you understand how much rape being used again and again in shows horrifies me (and other women) because we’re the ones scared just to go jogging in our own neighborhoods and we’re the ones terrified every time we have to walk in a parking lot alone at night. We’re the ones who have to remember the things that have either been done to us first hand or the things we’ve heard about happening to our friends/mothers/sisters/etc and described to us in detail when we see that shit explicitly shown on tv and movies. So when it’s shoved in for no reason other than entertainment when it wasn’t there in the first place YES IT MATTERS. And I’m sorry but if you haven’t been raped or you have never walked to your car at night and or been out alone jogging or just running errands or harassed on the street and scared somewhere in the back of your mind you don’t get to tell me the difference is slight or that it’s okay if entertainment uses these things as plot devices over and over and over again until we see it so often that questioning it gets dismissed this way. You literally have NO IDEA how much the lives you touch have been affected by rape not just directly but also through all the other people involved. They say it’s one in three women who have been raped or molested but I’m telling you now, I literally don’t know one woman (with whom I’m comfortable enough to talk about this topic with openly) (which isn’t like five women, it’s dozens) who hasn’t confessed to being the survivor of one or both.
also thank you. as always I love you
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On keeping his American accent for three months.
On keeping his American accent for three months.
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"The Stark boy is a child. No doubt he likes the sound of warhorns well enough, and the sight of his..."
“The Stark boy is a child. No doubt he likes the sound of warhorns well enough, and the sight of his banners fluttering in the wind, but in the end it comes down to butcher’s work.”
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Tywin Lannister (via joannalannister)
#tywin doesnt think war is noble #tywin never thought war is noble #i wonder if you ever knew him truly #grrm’s most bellicose family has some of the best anti-war quotes #*mutters angrily* #the books are not a glorification of violence!! (joannalannister)
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"#tywin understood from a tactical point of view that he had to win the war to survive" but you say that as though peace was never an option. The North wanted to secede, Robb was retreating before RW & going back home; killing Lannisters was no longer his objective. Iron Throne RN has a tenuous hold on the North at best, so would making peace with the North before RW truly have posed a threat to House Lannister? Threatened tywin's rep, sure, but life? Honorable Robb wouldnt have held to treaty?
Well, I think he would’ve held to a treaty, it’s more about the terms of the treaty. Robb was the first between the two to give the opposing side a treaty. And it’s more complicated than that (for me anyway, although mostly we’re talking in hypotheticals because really this is so much bigger than Robb and his decisions at this point. Which was half my point when I made those tags because I think what gets me is so many people say the RW is Robb or Jeyne’s fault and had Robb not married someone else besides ‘the Frey girl’ it never would’ve happened, and I just don’t believe that. I think by the time Robb betrayed the Freys, Tywin was already seeing clearly that he wasn’t going to win the war on the field alone and he understood that even if Robb was surprisingly good at leading his men, he was weak at understanding how political war is, which was also sort of one of the points I was making, that we all just use what we have to do what we have to even if we don’t enjoy doing it. That winning isn’t much more enjoyable than losing, you just get to survive and in that I was agreeing with what you were saying about the books not being a glorification of war but the opposite).
I don’t think Tywin was afraid for his own life (to be honest in a lot of ways I see Tywin as selfless as weird as that sounds to say, I feel like everything he does is for his house and his family, and like yeah a lot of it is because his name is attached to that house but I honestly don’t believe it’s solely pride and ego at work, but an understanding of the responsibilities of being the head of a major house), it was more about the idea of being prudent and not taking chances with the North rising up again in the future and taking their grudges out on his decedents (who would then have to spend more money and time and waste more men from the lands they own). When I said ‘he had to win to survive’ I meant the survival and prosperity of like…his entire family. Certainly I think pride and reputation worked a great deal into the equation (You don’t just stage an uprising against the Lannisters and get away with it, etc).
I dunno, tbh, I haven’t thought about potential peace between the Lannisters and the Starks as perhaps I should have? lol thinking about it now. Very interesting, but very complicated.
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I agree w/ what you're saying & I think you make good points but "it was more about the idea of being prudent and not taking chances with the North rising up again in the future and taking their grudges out on his decedents" doesn't the North RIGHT NOW hold a massive grudge BECAUSE of the RW? Tywin didn't subdue the North w/ RW as he did the Westerlands w/ Castamere, he only pissed the North off even more. They were tired be4 RW, now they're pissed. ps-u should enable replies on ur sideblog
Oh, he definitely pissed them off, but his men killed so many of them (particularly the able bodied leaders with good weapons, after many of the able bodied men had died in the battles previous in the first place) (and also, so many people like to use that quote about killing 30 men at dinner or something? Except like I’m pretty sure it was a mass slaughter outside of the Stark forces who were NOT ready for or expecting a battle) that without anyone to lead them and with so much of their power cut off at the head…what could they do? I mean obviously I think it goes without saying that I’m hoping there will be some retribution from the North (in a way. I guess what I’m really hoping for is the rebuilding of the Stark family/power in some way or another that includes Sansa and Arya leading Bravosii and Bran leading animals and Rickon leading wildlings but that’s mostly just me dreaming, I know by now this won’t end that nicely).
This is gunna sound like a stupid comparison but it reminds me of how I feel when I have to kill a spider or something. I hate doing it. But all I can think is if I don’t it’ll have baby spiders and someday instead of one giant spider I’ll be infested with all it’s children and it’s children’s children and they’ll be in my room and I have to kill this one now even if it’s not something I’d particularly like to do.
Also which blog? This one or…I have like 4 sideblogs loI thought I had replies enabled on all of them…I see everyone’s replies lol I’ll check though!
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I meant that replies aren't enabled on fuckyeahrobbstark! Your spider analogy is kind of my point tho, RW was a slaughter but u have all the relatives of RW victims; sons & daughters are going to grow up remembering & wanting payback. Wyman Manderly certainly seems capable of setting up Rickon as a figurehead & leading the north. I just think that while the RW ended the war, it did little to protect House Lannister in the long term, whereas Northern peace would have.
what?? That’s so strange, people were replying to one of my posts earlier and I was able to see those replies in my feed? Hmm. I’ll look into it.
I think I just meant in terms of resources. Like, I think the North sent out all of its best resources and it lost almost all of its best resources. That becomes a multigenerational problem. You not only lose your best fighters, your best weapons and your able bodied men who would have gone back home to raise sheep or tend fields or make swords, you also lose a wealth of knowledge that was supposed to be passed down from fathers to sons (so to speak). You also lost quite a few potential soldiers (particularly those who would not have been commoners, but noble men {even if they were just knights or banner men} who would have had the rank, the armor and the skill to fight) because so many thousands of men are now not going home to make babies. Are there still men in the north? Yeah, but mostly those men are commoners who would not have been put to battle for many socio-economic reasons I’m sure you’re familiar with.
Also, the North has far less money and far, far less profitable trade (in fact other than potential sheep herding or the like with other animals that can survive the chill, I can’t even think of what the North would do in terms of trade {I really wanted to sit down with Robb and talk to him about strengthening his trade ports and ties so many times it was ridiculous, they were so economically dependent on the south when they went to war I really couldn’t help but bang my head against a wall}. Has it been discussed somewhere because I’ve never seen it anywhere) (maybe they do stone masonry??) than the Westerlands. I think Tywin is assuming that should the North try to rise up again, they’ll be pitifully outnumbered, outarmed, outranked with laughably bad leaders because they would have such a small pool of people to choose from and it’s doubtful that whoever is chosen would have been taught the art of war as well as anyone from the Westerlands or King’s Landing could have been. He’s assuming, imo, his prudence will pay off in prosperity for his descendants which will lead to their every advantage.
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joannalannister: "in the end it comes down to butcher’s work"
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You look a bit different. Is this for Cinderella? [x]
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robb-stark: “Tell me a story,” she urges, giving his waist a...
“Tell me a story,” she urges, giving his waist a small squeeze, “any story you like. The one about how we’re all living in the eye of a giant, or perhaps the one where Sansa got back at you and Jon for hiding a spider in her bed.”
“I have a better one.”
Robb recounts the story of how he met his wife to his eldest daughter. (What would have happened if the Tyrells decided to go North with the royal family when Robert asked Ned to be his hand.) | AO3 | for theladymargaery
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